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The Best of 2015?

What a year it’s been.  So much has been released for so many games that I’m not sure where I stand to be honest.  It’s like creating a list of the best ‘Films’ you’ve seen in the last 10 years – each day (and maybe hour) you think different.  I’m sure you’ll all agree that the best Horror film ever is ‘The Thing‘ (John Carpenter) but let’s move on, this is about 2015 and about games.

Where do I start first?  Let’s make a list.  I’ll look at Tabletop War Gaming, PC Gaming/Xbox Gaming, Board Gaming, Roleplaying and maybe other things about gaming.  So what were the 10 best things about 2015?  These are in no particular order – they just speak to me, and thus are remembered….

Ridend Faction for Relics Wargame

When were they released?  Back in June (end of) the Ridend finally saw the sun.  Based on (in my opinion) Goblins vs Labyrinth Goblins they opened up a whole new faction for the game.  Unlike the previous 4 factions they weren’t listed in that lovely rulebook.  They also became the first figures that Tor Gaming used 3D sculpting for the entire faction.  As I write this there’s a new Ridend Profile coming in January (I believe) – these are the Peasants.

Beyond the Gates of Antares

A sci-fi game written by Sir Rick of Priestly.  Now before I continue I will say I’m not Ricks greatest fan.  For me, he’s not a god – but he his a great game designer and has that ‘touch’.  So when I started to see more about this game during the summer holidays I had to look into it.  At the Derby World show I had a demo game and b00M!  I was hooked.  I loved the idea a simple human soldier (not a 7″ tall marine) could take down the most armoured of foe.  Yes it requires a lot of luck, but it’s possible and that for me works very well.

So I pre-ordered the new two player starter box, Xilos Horizon and awaited it to turn up.  Great value I thought at £70 (I went direct so they got all the money – rather than off a retailer – who would probably discount it) and got the pre-order bonuses, the extra figures and a peice of average scenery.  Still great value and since then haven’t had the chance to play a game!

You can find more about it here, but note it’s NOT a replacement for 40k, it’s more modern and follows pretty much the system used in Bolt Action.  Each unit gets to add a number of action dice and these are pulled out randomly.  I still need to re-read the rulebook (I’ve read it once and skimmed it) but the info is all over the place.  It could be I’m simply too used to technical books where all of the relevant information is normally contained together.

Anyway there will be a blog post about this coming soon, following my progress building my Concord (then maybe painting – new glasses/hands required!).

Horus Heresy

The fluff – wow the fluff.  Hooked I am on the audio books (I tend not to read much unless it’s a blog site/tech book) but I do like to listen.  Now there’s a lot of HH books, tons in fact, they seem to spawn more than I used to playing Unreal Tournament.  However it’s not the books/audiobooks that I think about, it’s about the work Forgeworld do.  Regardless of whether you think them stupidly expensive you have to admire their skill.  I didn’t go to the Forgeworld open day this year however it didn’t matter.  A new website and new models.  For me I was hoping Garro would be released (the former Death Guard Battle-Captain) and what a model he is:

Nathaniel Garro, Hand of the Sigillite

I can’t stop there either, the newer Leviathan Dreadnoughts are splendid – make me wish I had to time (and money) to play 30k still.  I still plan though to continue building my Death Guard forces – more in 2016.

Fallout 4

Mixed reviews about this one, lots of moans – but it can’t be the same as FA3 otherwise you’d be bored after just 30 hours.  Currently I’m 80 hours in.  I’ve finished the main story (I went with the Brotherhood) and I’ve done a lot of the side quests and my toon is level 52 but I’m not done.  Nope, still plenty to do.  Bobblehead hunting at the moment, then will collect the magazines and complete all the current sub-quests.  I may then re-play the game and do the other 3 endings…. or might focus on settlement (let a good few die off this time around!).

If you do want to get the most out of the game, pick up the Survival Guide from Prima.  They have a holiday sale on at the moment, so for $9.99 (about £7) you can pick up an online (not downloadable) guide which compared to a lot I’ve looked at, is pretty well done.  Invaluable if you want to scour the complete wasteland without wasting much time, but do like I did, play the game, complete it and then get it.


Now a game that really tickles my heart (and taxes my brain).  I only got into this game during the early part of this year and have only played a few games of it but I love the models and the idea (and at the moment the randomness of the game).

Wyrd games have got one hell (pun intended) of a release schedule and from what I know these are just the plastic re-sculpts of older metal miniatures.  However I don’t care.  Coming now(ish) and soon(ish) (I’m in the UK so have to wait) are 2 releases for the Resurrectionists, these folks, the Drowned and the Gaki….

I’d also note that Wyrd Games were perhaps the first (that I noticed) to move away from studio painted to showing 3d sculpts and artwork on the boxes.  Works very well as no longer does it make you think ‘that painting is great, I can’t get to that level’.

Rippers Resurrected RPG

A little known RPG but again a game that I love the idea behind.  Think of this as the Victorian version of Hunter, so rather than being super hero player characters, you’re the unusual heros who take on the rippertech and use it to hunt down and kill off all those nasty things.  I backed a Kickstarter for this in September (more a pre-order I think) but over the last 48 hours I’ve managed to download all the new stuff (I backed at PDF level) and over the new year I’ll be eager to see how it’s moved on from the 1st edition.  Go here to find out more.

It’s a setting for the Savage Worlds rules, and I like these rules as they’re more light hearted and a lot simpler – a mix of online RPG and book based RPG rules.  Worth looking into if you want a fresh system that can be applied to any setting.


Finally we come to…

Call of Cthulhu 7th Edition

Technically it’s not ‘out’ in printed form, but Chaosium have finally released the PDF + Ebook versions of the rules for us all to enjoy.  I backed the Kickstarter all those years ago and so hope that in earlyish 2016 I’ll see the physical books arrive at my door step.  I can’t also wait for a few folks at Fantasy Grounds finish off the 7th Edition rules set – so that I may then convert over Horror on the Orient Express…..

Here’s the cover images for the main 2 rulebooks plus the keepers screen.  Go here to get yourself the free quick start rules.

So that’s it folks, plenty happening in 2015 and I could go on and on and on, but I’ll leave it at this.

Have yourselves a wonderful New Year and I hope to return far more regular in 2016.



The C’thu are coming…

Greetings all,

I trust you’ve all had a better xmas holiday break so far than I’ve had. I got a present off my eldest a day early – it was her stomach bug.  Not eaten that little for so many years, unusual and lack of ale hasn’t helped.

Well 2015 has been such a busy year.  Not just for me personally but also in the world of gaming, be that RPG/tabletop or War Gaming or even Video Gaming, an amazing year really.  I’ll be posting a recap of it next week but something new is happening in 2016…

Tor Gaming have started to release information about their up and coming Kickstarter Project.  The project is for the latest faction to see the light of day, and follows on from the hugely successful Ridend that were launched earlier this year.

Here’s a video teaser posted a few days ago on their facebook page and then on youtube.

So who are the C’thu?  Well aside from a new faction they’re a race influenced by the Cthulhu Mythos of H.P. Lovecraft.  Now I’m a huge fan of Lovecraft.  Whilst I’m not his most avid reader I have found myself lost within the world he created.  This has all come to the point where any faction for any game that’s influenced/based upon gets my attention and oh my, the C’thu have.

They’re for the Relics tabletop war game by Tor Gaming.  The chaps based in Sheffield (UK) have been producing Relics for about 5 years and the C’thu marks the 6th faction based on race to be released (there’s a Mercenary faction making a total of 7) and brings Horror to the game.  Horror being a lingering effect that makes you soil yourself (not really but your morale takes a hit).

The Kickstarter project goes live on 5th January 2016 and shows that Tor Gaming have moved with the times and now use 3d sculpting (Russ Charles) to create their figures.  A move that I like very much as with 3d sculpts you can see detail that you can’t really see in greens.

Here are some 3d sculpts that I’ve managed to liberate off of their facebook group.  As you can see lots of lovely detail and I love the mi-go influenced flying ‘thing’ that’s part of the starter set!

Here are some concept art as well, you can compare the sculpts against some of their concepts.  Of course, until models are actually mastered things may change but I’m hoping we get what we see!

If you love the Relics fiction then you can find some great new stories for the C’thu and then maybe find out more about them before the KS project starts.  So go off to the TG website and find it here.

Also here’s a new picture for ‘C’thu vs Ridend’ it’s very very very good.  This was done by Christian Schwager (see his FB page) who does all of the concept art for each figure for TG (well has done for many many years).

C'thu vs Ridend

C’thu vs Ridend

And now here is the story written by Dan Fellows for that picture – read and then run!

The bloodcurdling cries of the Ridend rang out into the night as the cult of C’thu rampaged through their woodland homes in the outback settlement of Wensnett, butchering without prejudice all who dared to stand in their path. The C’thunian Warriors snarled and spat as they brought their swords crashing down upon the skulls of their enemies, mauling and clawing at their foes as their slithering jaws snapped wildly. It was a blur of madness within the forest and the only way to distinguish the mature C’thunian from the younglings was by the length of the twisted tentacles that spewed forth from their slimy maws in a grotesquely tangled fashion. In every respect they were horrific to look upon and their characteristics were clearly gifted to them by the Last God whose image they resembled so greatly.

In the middle of the chaos an avatar of C’thu, a great Prime, directed the rabble. A being of pure filth, his corrupted flesh poured out from beneath his rusted armour and he dribbled from his dog like mouth as he spoke, muttering incoherently in a cursed tongue as he offered blood sacrifices to his patron.

The Hag Kin of the woodland realm watched helplessly from the shadows as the beasts slaughtered the Ridend children of the forest and torched their homes. There would surely be vengeance for this cruel deed acted out upon on them but for the time being, outnumbered and ambushed they were forced to simply observe as the monstrous Rapthorgul tore down the treetop homes of the peasants with startling ease; its jaws gnashing and slashing at the desperate victims as they tried to flee from the horror.

The Cult of C’thu had ambushed the Ridend for no other reason than to cause them suffering. There was no political or monetary gain to be gotten from the assault; it was simply destruction for the sake of it. The vicious hounds of Cantaaris had made their way into the village in the dead of night ahead of the main forces and killed many of the frail and the young, ripping their throats out as they slept. The youngling C’thunian Hunters had followed closely behind them, running ahead of their fathers and brothers in order to prove themselves and further their own status within the pack. In their attempt to prove their worth in the eyes of C’thu they had performed the most heinous and disgusting acts upon the Ridend, even going so far as to smother the tiny Ridend infants; snatching them from their cradles and the arms of their mothers, ignoring their harrowingly desperate pleas for mercy.

Those who were able to willingly took their own lives by plunging to the floor of the forest as they witnessed the slaughter of the infants, rather than live to become the playthings of the sick minded C’thu. Those who attempted to resist them were quickly put to the sword while the ruling Ridendean elders were resigned to suffer the worst torment imaginable.

The lords and ladies were stripped of their clothing and possessions before being presented before the Prime, they shook with fear as the combined forces of the C’thunian tore down their homes around them while the younglings sneered and spat at them. The Prime raised his arms to the heavens and roared his tainted curses loudly as he beckoned for the assistance of his god. A thick cloud of black smog fell over the elders, smothering them. They choked and gasped for air as the wind stripped the flesh from their bones and twisted them into a new unique form. As the smoke cleared all that remained of the elders was a gibbering mush of slimy flesh that slithered across the forest floor, warping and absorbing the bodies of the dead as the Cult of C’thu howled their harrowing songs of victory long into the night.

Lastly (for the moment) we come to the C’thu logo.  Look at this, looks great I think and I hope in the future that it’s on some badge and maybe more.  I’m sure we’ll find more about it during the KS Project.

C'Thu Logo

C’Thu Logo

Enough of this now, I’ll post again when the project goes live but join the FB page or sign up for the newsletter over at the Tor Gaming website so you don’t miss out because I may well run off screaming of some insanity when January 5th comes around.

Until my next post, keep gaming.




Relics Reinforcements 2 and a new Crowdfunding site…

Good Morning (and now afternoon) All,

I should be writing my Sunday Morning blog post on TGC but I thought I’d put this here as it will focus on the one thing, the Relics Reinforcements 2 project that’s happening on a new Crowd-funding website called ‘GamingFunder‘, and yes it’s just for us gamers!  So that means it should be quicker to find some new things and cheaper that only Crowd-funding websites for these ideas… more about that in another blog soon, but they do have a Facebook page if you want more news.

So back to the first project.  Let’s look at what this project is about.  I’m a long time fan of Relics (well as long as 3 years since I found it)  and I’ve never had my luck with the dice but have enjoyed the game itself as it’s different from all the others in how it works out if stuff ‘happens’ but also the look and feel of the models is not like anything else…

Now lets look at what the project is all about (stolen from the project page):

Help to fund the production of the Relics profiles remaining from the current rulebook. On top of that, there will be project exclusive mercenary sculpts usable by all factions!

So the starting target is £1200 ($2021USD) and it’s all ready reached that (after about 26 hours), and is now around 21% into the first Stretch Goal which will mean the HUGE Neum profile will have its model, the Ruina.  Now that’s not a huge total but it’s enough to get the project started.

Looking at the rule book and the project these are the profiles that still need models and here’s a nice list of them (by faction).


  • Heavy Dragoon
  • Rangers


  • Equites
  • Equitum
  • Ruina


  • DModer
  • Hunsmann


  • Brocken
  • Sol
  • Vicario

That’s a total of 10 profiles to fund which isn’t going to be a easy task as Relics isn’t stocked everywhere (but is slowing growing).  It therefore needs our help.  Looking down the various pledges it appears to be aimed at the new players as you can pick up a full army for £75 (available at this time) which is around $126USD and that price includes shipping!  That’s not a bad price for a large range of metal/resin models that won’t be a light package to send.

However the project hasn’t started with any of the remaining profiles, nope it’s done something better.  Scenery!  We’ve been after having some Relics scenery for our gaming boards for a good while and it’s nice to see something has happened.  First up comes some Portals.  These look good and will be useful for some games we play.

Next we can see that there’s a new profiles as well, a Mercenary that can be used by any faction.  I like that idea a lot and I like the figure that they’re giving to us if you back the project.

Look at him (it or her).  Looks very great don’t you think?  It’s going to cost £6.50 to add in but that’s one.  If you look at the project you can find his rules, but because this is a new profile (and it’s being tested) those rules/points/profile might change, don’t worry he’ll look very good on the table.

Next then we come to another Mercenary figure that they’re going to sell only for Tor Gaming Events, the Chronicler.  I don’t know much about this chap, but he looks very good as well.

So what’s next?  Well time to back it I think, plus look at all the add-ons (for their current models) and make a new army.  I’m thinking of getting a Neum army (I have Britanan already) and pick up the Mercenaries figures, from what I can see the £75 is still there, cool.

Also now just looking at the Stretch Goals and read an Update to say this will be changed, but down on that list are Objective Markers as well, now look at this guys!

WOW, just look at the Britanan Marker, lol, very good I think, very good.  Got to love the Orcnar one as well and look forward to hopefully being able to buy a Neum for my new army.

Right time for me to go out, but I’ll be back next week hopefully talking about the Stretch Goals that have been done…

Anyway if you want to find out more about Relics try first signing up to their forum here, and then have a look over at the Tor Gaming website.

Right I’ll be back in a few days, going to play some more Netrunner games and some Relics games I think!



Fantasy Football – Tor Gaming’s ‘Relics Armistice League’

Golem“In a world as bleak and barren as Relicia it is somewhat difficult to believe there is any hope for the most dominant warring factions as most of the time they are hell bent on destroying each other in the most imaginatively brutal fashions possible. Yet to my amazement, in the midst of the black vortex of pain and suffering that has become second nature to the quirky inhabitants of Relicia, there seems to be a shining ray of hopeful light…”

What’s all this then?

It’s none other than the famous Britanan All-Stars Team.  Famous for their outright victory during last seasons Armistice League.  Here we have a number of images of the team, displaying the new kit for this coming year…

These models were painted by the talented team of Dan Twiss and Kate Evans (of whom the latter now has her own studio) and are painted in the colours of the older spurs away kit/very light pale blue (whichever is closer).

They are available directly from the Tor Gaming webstore, see here, and you can pick up the entire team of 14 for £35 + shipping.  A steal really for 14 well sculpted and cast metal miniatures including that huge Golem.

The rules themselves for the Relics Armistice League continue to be developed (you can find more here) there’s no reason why you can’t use these within any other Fantasy Football game.

So what are you waiting for?

Sadly, the whistle has been blown.  It’s time now for me to head home pondering this post…..


Relics – The NEW rulebook, a first glimpse

So folks what brings me back here during a busy time in my life.

Well I’m happy to say that today I managed to get my hands onto the new Relics Rulebook.

As you may be aware if you’ve followed this blog I am a big liker of Relics because it’s quite different in how it’s rules work (which is copied in other games these days) from the ‘To Hit’ rolls also mean to wound and require you to roll pairs, ie with 2 dice you need 1’s on both or 6’s, as long as it’s a pair it doesn’t matter (well almost).  So I can with my snake eyes dice actually hit and do damage.

Anyway I digress, here’s a picture of the New Rulebook.

It’s the Collectors edition and so the cover is different from the main edition Rulebook and it cost just £22.  This is an absolute bargain when you consider the book is:

  • A5 Hardback – quality hardback with a square perfect bound spine.
  • 176 Full Colour decent quality paper pages
  • ~30 pages of rules using full colour diagrams
  • 13 profiles for each of the factions giving full breakdown of their stats and abilities – so no need to find out what ‘Doom Charge’ might mean.
  • Plenty of photo’s of the superb models
  • Full colour picture art from the amazing hands of Christian
  • Fluff – lots of fluff for everything but if you want more then visit the website.
  • v1.2 of the rules with all known issues resolved, updated rules for morale and more spells.
  • Only 200 Rulebooks printed for the Limited Edition all signed by Gavin

Enough of that, here are some pictures.

Anyway so my thoughts.

The new diagrams are superb and clear.   They functioned very well in the first edition of the rules but now they seriously stand out and are better than the GW versions.

Relics Collectors Edition v1.2 Rulebook - Full Colour Diagrams

The Profiles are expanded.  Each profile now has 2 pages.  Every one contains some concept art so now you can see/visualise what model you want, or find out what models you have plus some have expanded fluff, photo’s of the superb (and superbly painted) models and of course provide all stats, abilities and any spells that profile might have.

Relics Collectors Edition v1.2 Rulebook - Orcnar Profiles

Every page (bar the back pages for me!) are full colour.  Tor Gaming have used a system of tagging each page with the name of the section (top left or top right) and you’ll notice under the faction profiles that each profile has it’s factions logo in the corners of the pages.  Looks like a lot of time has been taken when updating the rule book for this edition and it’s done very nicely.

Now though the biggest change.  My major gripe with the first edition rules was the fact that I couldn’t read most of the fluff and some of the rules due to the lack of double line spacing and then font used.  This has been corrected.  Even though the font size is small (to fit all we need on an A5 page) it’s actually very clear.  I think this has to do with the coloured backgrounds, if so, that’s another excellent decision.

As I told you this is a A5 book, here’s a picture of it against the Osprey Game ‘In Her Majesty’s Name’ which itself is about two-thirds the size of A4.

Btw ignore IHMN it’s crap.

Lastly then the cover.  It looks like the Relics Logo and Tor Gaming Logo are branded in and this Rulebook was some journal.  That fits in perfectly with how some of the fluff is written and if you look at some of the pages you have journal notes as the background… very cleverly done.

Phew.  That’s a lot of praise.

Do I have any complaints?  Maybe a few niggles more than complaints.

I was expecting a ribbon bookmark as part of the book and my other niggle.  It’s a shame we still have a few profiles to be sculpted for each faction.  I am waiting for the Heavy Dragoons so I hope the sales of this rulebook go well as I know producing a book is not a cheap option and the funds could be used to build the last few.

Anyway best thing you folks can do is to pick yourself up a copy.  Looking at the TG website I can see the standard Edition (still A5 Hardback) is £18 and the very strictly limited edition (just 200 printed and I would guess they won’t last long) are just £22.

I welcome all decent comments and questions.



March is gone, so what have I been doing?


I should be out but instead I’m at home, writing this of course.

Now that March has gone (well nearly) it’s time to look at what’s happened.

First, let’s look at Relics.

As some of you might remember Tor Gaming ran a KS project called ‘Relics Reinforcements‘ during Jan/Feb, well time is moving on and so I thought I’d pop back to see what they were upto.

They’ve been busy.  If you look at the updates (some are only for backers) you can see that the models are still being sculpted (some are finished) and that Gavin has recently been working on the new rulebook.

That’s great news, my ONLY issue with Relics was the first Rulebook was a bit hard to read, the fonts and spacing, well let’s say they didn’t work with my eyes.  But look here, see how good the new Rulebook will look.

Reading from the update post it seems there will be two versions.  The first release a ~140 page A5 full colour hardback rulebook.  Nice.  A5 is a good size and I know if I have to take a Rulebook with me (40k/Warmachine) I prefer A5 versions and it being hardback means hopefully the cover/corners won’t get damaged too quickly.  Not that mine do, I take too much care, but I’ve seem some copies of them…

Next though and the interesting point is that they’re also going to release a Limited Edition release.  200 of these will be made and the cost is just £20, so I’ll order one of them via my KS pledge (limited to 1 per customer).  When I get mine, I’ll post a nice blog with photos.

Anyway onto some other KS projects that have my cash waiting for them and both have hit their targets so I know I’m going to get some goodies in the post later over summer.

First up we have Torn Armor (yes the U doesn’t exist but we the English can still read the word so no moaning).

A boardgame with some very nice figures being created for it.  I won’t go into much detail as you can find everything on their KS project webpage.  But time hasn’t run out yet for you to get a great deal so pop over now and pledge.

Second we have something very different, still a boardgame but a much darker game.

The KS project is called ‘Spinespur, the Survival Horror miniatures game‘.  Phew that’s quite a title.

This project has reached it’s goal but only just.  There are still 6 days left on it, so please if you like Horror games then take a good look at this.  It’s very interesting and one of the rules that I love is that when a character dies, they die with all their gear and you can pop over and loot them, amazing – now we just need Xbox/PC games to follow this.

And that’s the end of the KS stuff, back now to my SAGA Vikings.

During March I managed to paint 9 of them, a very poor result but a start.  That’s as many figures as I painted the entire of last year!  I will continue with them but I’ve been set a challenge that I shall post about in the week that follows.

Next we come to Warmachine.

This needs it’s own post, so I’ll just say that after looking at various rulebooks recently for a little project I picked up my Warmachine A5 rulebook and re-read parts of it.  Tonight I just happened to order more models and I’ve got a game of Warmachine on Thursday, I’ve not played Warmachine since last summer….

Lastly we come to GW.


There we are, quite simple wasn’t it.

I picked up the White Dwarf iPad subscription (£44 for the year was quite cheap) and had to go through reading all about the Tau.  Plus White Dwarf is 400 editions old, bloody hell I have some in the cupboard upstairs that are in their 70’s.  Yep, I’m old.

I had of course to order the Ltd Edition Tau Codex.  Tau have been a secret ‘like’ of mine for years but GW left them for dead.  So what we have is a small release, a few new models, a new codex and some existing models now in plastic.

Very much like the Warmachine section, this one needs a post all of it’s own and i’ll get that tomorrow I would hope.

Anyway I feel like painting some models, but I have guests and they are staying in my spare room/painting studio, so the Warmachine blog post next.


Relics Reinforcements, what’s going on?

Well Folks, it’s been just over 2 weeks since I made this post here regarding the start of the new Relics Kickstarter Project.

So after my ramblings earlier on, I thought I’d actually check on the progress and see what else my local War gaming company is upto.

First the Kickstarter project.  Well things are looking good in a sense and not so good in other.

At the moment there are 65 backers and a Total of £5692 which seems to keep changing despite the number of backer remaining around the same.  I can only presume that people are changing their pledges, well I hope if they are, that they’re increasing them as to be totally selfish I want my Heavy Dragoons and these are way off at the moment.

Luckily the initial £3k target got smashed in a few days, which means we have got the initial 4 models coming to us, these are:

That’s great progress as personally I was looking forward to being able to field a Bomber in my Britanan list.

To wet my appetite, Tor Gaming have released a Work in Progress of the Bomber and he’s looking just like the concept – great stuff!

Britanan Bomber – WIP

To also continue this theme of showing Work in Progress, we do actually have the finished Orcnar Nappa figures, look here!

Ocrnar Nappa sculpts

Things have continued to progress nicely with Tor Gaming listening to various comments as initially the first Stretch Goal was set at £6250 which was quite a jump.  The changes then split the stretch goal into smaller stretches with one figure at a time being unlocked.

So far we have the following extra models unlocked, but look on in fear that someone withdrawing their pledge could once again lock the Puppeteer.

In order of how they’ve been unlocked, we have:

I have to admit that seeing the Neum Domini in resin will be excellent.  The price is not too bad either, £13 for a large model and these days that’s actually pretty cheap.

So we come onto the one concept that’s not going to hit the stores near you as we’re £500+ off from it, and that’s this:

I hope that we can find in the next 9 days a lot of support as the models that I really want are some way off, the Huntsman and Heavy Dragoons for my Britanan forces.

But let’s not get our hopes down as Tor Gaming have been super quick to listen again to comment about ‘free’ stuff, as it’s the norm to reward backers with extra stuff on to of what the initial pledges state.

So far, we have seen the fact that damage markers are coming :), depending on your level of pledge you can get:

  • Dragoon Reward: 1 of your choice
  • Marksmen Reward: 2 of you choice
  • Highlander Reward or above: 3 of your choice

Here we have some of the WIP of those damage markers and look at that poor Trooper, his stuffing is coming out!

Looking good don’t you agree?

And phew!  It doesn’t stop there!

Christian, the artist behind the concepts and other Relics art has been busy on the postcard art and here’s a lovely example of the Britanans actually doing some damage (unlike mine who are let down by my poor rolling dice).

Troopers! Open Fire!

I wish I could stop there, but no!

Seems also that Tor Gaming are going to get some T-Shirts made and we can buy these with our pledge money.  The pledges work a bit different, rather than getting some of this, some of that and one of them etc, you get an amount of money to spend on ANYTHING, and in return on some pledges you get the free stuff listed above.

And now there’s more still, crumbs, perahaps another post to explain this one, but just to include it Tor Gaming have released to us the mass battle rules for Relics.  These are not the finished item, they’re a work in progress but now we can take our Relics miniatures and fight mass battles with Troopers in unit.

Download a copy of the rules from here, have a read and let Tor Gaming know what you think (I will).

Anyway I’m signing of now, this has become a rather large post with lots of images, but also coming (no images available) are Effect Counters that we can use to mark Spell Effects that linger etc.

So what are you waiting for, go over to the Kickstarter project page and pledge away, we need this information spread – go and post this onto all the other forums that you post in and let’s support this, 9 days to go and plenty to get!



Wargaming – the cost of making new games….well the models anyway!

Morning Folks,

I’ve been ill for a few days and now I’m really bored of it.

This morning I was thinking about war gaming again, well re-thinking about a game I wanted to create last year.

The problem is this.  The smaller companies just don’t have the money to make their games unless they’re lucky to have a friend who’s a sculptor, an artist for the concepts and a caster to make the models.  It seems that you really need these people unless you want to pay good money.

What am I talking about?

Very early last year I found out that Tor Gaming was based in Sheffield and when I really looked their are just 1.2 miles away from me at home.  I looked onto their website and it was one of the best around for indies/small wargaming companies so looked professional.

Plus then I looked at their main game (Relics) and the models that they’ve released, plus at that time they were about to run the Indiegogo project for the Neum faction.

That was great stuff and I thought, this is excellent, maybe they’ll be able to help me out with my ideas as I have some money I can spend.

Before I go on, can any of you think how much it costs to make a single metal 28mm model?

So I contacted them and Gavin replied and was happy to talk.  We had a get together and their offices and then I found out it wasn’t ‘them’ it was ‘just him’.  That’s not that correct really as his better half helps out and his dog, he has a writer elsewhere, plus he has some friends that help and so on, but day to day it’s Gavin and he does EVERYTHING.  You send TG an email and he answers, you post onto their forum and it would be him answering for TG, you check out their Facebook/Twitter and so on it’s him…. during the ‘day’ he also has to make sure the bills are paid, orders are processed and sent out, that he has a cup of tea and some lunch and that he’s made sure the new models are being created, sculpt or concepted, my lord what a lot of stuff to do per day and this doesn’t include testing, updating the rulebook etc etc!

I almost stopped in my tracks and thought he was mad.  Now we’re about a year on and I still think he’s mad because he’s continuing…. these days he’s got a number of other models released for Relics and now currently has a Kickstarter project running to help make up some of the last models from the initial factions in the rulebook.

But the project isn’t getting that much help.

I looked around at others over the last 6 months and some big companies using Kickstarter are making a small fortune (Mantic, MiniWargaming come to mind etc) yet the smaller companies who need the investment to continue their ranges get limited support.

At time of writing the Relics KS has just 65 supporters, that sucks.  I know that on average how many people read this blog and how many friends I have.

Anyway off I digress.

The cost of making a miniature stands at very high for those of us without the local friends.  I don’t know about Tor Gaming (who would share their costs with a madman?) but from my investigations last year I found:

Concepts – depending on your artist and the quality you can pay £40-£75 for a single concept (of a 28mm WWII soldier for instance)

Sculpting – depending on if you wanted multi-part or single cast you can pay from £80 – £300 for a single sculpt.

Casting – depending on the number of models per mould, but seems you need various moulds are these cost around £100-120 in total.

So let’s say I wanted pretty much the best, on par with the Perry Brothers then I can expect to pay per figure £375 just to have the figure concepted and sculpted.  Not to mention I’d perhaps have to pay for shipping and VAT on those prices.  Once we add in the casting and moulds we’re looking at £500 a figure.

How many figures do you need to launch a new range?  That all depends, but probably 2 factions with 8 figures on each side, blood and sand, that’s £8k for the ‘starter sets’.

Now coming back down to earth we can reduce costs by re-using the bodies and having new arms/heads but in a pack of 8 you don’t really want duplicates do you?

So on how on earth can we get back the 8k we’ve invested?

I suppose that all depends on the selling price, but we’ve also got to think about if we want to move the figures via a retailer and/or distributor market then it’ll take us a long long time.

For example, say we make £8 per box of figures (assume we have a GW price!) how many boxes do we need JUST to recover our costs?  Well basic sums say 900….

That’s not too shabby is it?  900 can’t be that many can it?  I’d be staggered if a new small company could shift that many boxes to retailers within the time frame they have to remain in business.  The chances are they’re trickle sell, but then to keep interest from the players who bought at the start, you need to continue to release new material, be that new figures, new rules, something and so the cost continues to build.

So this is where IndieGoGo/Kickstarter come in.  I could get some concepts drawn, I could then start a project and hope to raise the £8k just for the figures. Of course I’d need to set it higher to pay the 5% Kickstarter want, and the 5% that the payment system will want and so my £8k needs to be £9.6k.

It’s a huge effort, but with banks not wanting to lend money without very high costs it’s the only choice.

This is where we need to support our local games.

Any of you reading this have NOT pledged to the Relics kickstarter then please re-think this.  The rules are very good, the figures are excellent and you should feel proud that your money is going to help a company that is fighting against some very big companies and perhaps this year they’ll ‘make it’.

So click here, in fact find any project that means something to you and support it.  What’s £10/$15 to you?  Enough of them could make a difference.

Apologies for my ramble, but it irks me that the larger companies get thousands of sales every day (the products may be good) but that their taking away money from the smaller guys.


Relics Reinforcements!

I’ve been a bit slow off the mark with this one as one of my favourite war games launched a new Kickstarter Project a few days ago.

As those of you who have read my ramblings before may know, I’m quite a big fan of the mechanics of Relics and one of the factions within, that of the Britanan’s who are a faction of mainly stuffed dolls brought back to life by a Puppeteer….

If you’re into you tabletop war gaming and fancy trying something different to 40k/GW/Warmahordes/Dystopian etc then this is a great little game.  Very quick, easy to pick up and the rules are free to download!

If you needed any other excuse then I suppose you should look at the quality of the current range of models.  You’ll  then see why I like them so much and am very interested in some of the remaining units from the main rulebook being released.  To aid you locate how great the current range of Britanan’s are then look no further!  I’ve made a gallery that I’ve nicked off the Tor Gaming store just for your (and my own)viewing pleasure!

So when I saw an email telling me that Tor Gaming had launched a Kickstarter Project to raise the funds to make the remaining models from the rulebook I was very excited.  A quick look and wow, they are going to make the Bomber model 🙂

Bomber Concept

That is good news and at time of writing it’s even better news as they’ve smashed their target, gone through a first stretch target and looks like they’ll be successful enough that I may see the Heavy Dragoon released!  Which also means there’s no worry that it may or may not reach it’s target and you get anything.

It didn’t take me long and I decided to back this project (why wouldn’t i?).  I chose the Colour Party as I love those figures and being added to some fluff through my own story type thing sounds ace.  Depending on what else gets released I may up my pledge, but I really would want a Hardback edition of the book – alas there’s no mention of this, but if you read the end there’s mention of possible Ridend and C’thu releases….. I can’t wait for the C’thu.

Anyway I can now display this can’t I?


So then folks, what are you waiting for?  I want the Heavy Dragoon model released so this project needs a lot of support, so why don’t you support it and tell all of your friends to support it?  You know you should.

Last thing, any of you around the South Yorkshire area who want a game, just let me know.


More strange goings on in the world of Relicia….a game of football being played?

I’ve been absent from my blog for a good while.

Sadly my evenings and weekends have all been occupied with the extension to my home here in Yorkshire. I didn’t realise the time it would take to clean rooms of their clutter to allow carpets to go down, clear those rooms that were used to have them fitted with new carpets, only after doing all of this to paint the rooms. Madness.

Anyway I digress as I’m here to talk about the Relics Armistice League. What’s that you ask? Well the world of Relicia is rather dark, well more than dark, it’s very dark and deadly,  just like in the 41st century there’s a lot of war going on.

Relics Armistice League Logo

However in one part of the world, (an island I believe) they hold games of fantasy football centered around league and tournament formats.

Now these games of football are not what you’d expect. That’s not quite true, knowing Relics they are like you expect. The ball is metal and spiked allowing you to injure other players with it, there are players who are ‘Brutes’ and their job is to maim an oppositions player (if you so choose) and pretty much it’s lethal.

Just imagine the speed of Rugby, mixed with the aggression of Relics mixed in with a feeling of American football and then you’re almost there.  From my inside knowledge it’s going to be excellent, but it’s in design still and some time off…

To start the ball rolling on this, the nutter behind TOR Gaming has decided to create a Kickstarter Project for the Britanan All Stars.  The project is looking for £5,500 to aid with the funding required to concept, sculpt, mould make and cast the first official team of which there are 9 exclusive miniatures that are just lovely.

The initial team is based on the Britanan faction from Relics.  So you have stitchpunk dolls all padded up to play ball….

Here are some of the sketches that the project has been showing.

Gavin has started to release some player profiles. Here’s the first that he posted today.

Terry Jones – Britanan All Stars

Relics is an excellent game, and this is going to be an excellent game, the miniatures are looking good and there’s simply no excuse as £22 willl pick you up 12 models!  (Assuming you’re based in the UK otherwise there’s a shipping fee of £10 to be added).

So don’t wait for me to carry on talking about this, see for yourselves here and go and pledge.  If you do pledge please mention this blog or leave me a comment.

I backed the Britanan All Stars Kickstarter Project

I backed the Britanan All Stars Kickstarter Project

Anyway expect to see lots of updates for this project and the best way of doing that is going to the source, but you never know I may get some insider exclusives!